Since CCP gave some options for players to use to spot a macrominer, what tips can you offer on keeping a low profile?
i myself use my toon to do missions and sometimes help noobs fit ships in chat, make it look like im just afk mining.
tips on how to keep a low profile?
tips on how to keep a low profile?
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Re: tips on how to keep a low profile?
Well, unless you can talk Chinese or 10 yrs old with nothing better to do than spend you r whole day in front of a computer don't use the bot for more than half a day as that will rise some eye brows instantly ( does the guy ever sleep) better to mine a little than not at all!
Re: tips on how to keep a low profile?
thats a good suggestion, ill try to avoid using it all day long.
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Re: tips on how to keep a low profile?
Keeping a low profile usually means avoiding other people seeing you. There are a number of things you can try to help with this endeavor along with using your common sense of course:
- Unload to a POS instead of a station, that way people won't see you coming to the station to unload every so often. The same goes for the "Jettison ore at a safe spot" option!
- Mine Gravimetric sites instead of regular belts. Most grievers and haters hang around regular belts.
- With the new "Mission Mining" option added in the latest TinyMiner version v5.58 you can now mine asteroids found in agent missions so that's another great way to keep a low profile.
- Consider mining ICE instead of regular ore. ICE belts are usually highly populated. There is strength in numbers! Also ICE is the most AFK-ish type of mining there is!
- For the ultimate piece of mind set up a POS in a wormhole and you won't have to bother with haters ever again. Of course you will be visited by PVP pirates once in a while but that's what the "Wormhole Scanner" option is for!
- Alternate mining characters.
- Don't mine 24/7 every day!
Employ these tips and you'll have a long and profitable mining career!
- Unload to a POS instead of a station, that way people won't see you coming to the station to unload every so often. The same goes for the "Jettison ore at a safe spot" option!
- Mine Gravimetric sites instead of regular belts. Most grievers and haters hang around regular belts.
- With the new "Mission Mining" option added in the latest TinyMiner version v5.58 you can now mine asteroids found in agent missions so that's another great way to keep a low profile.
- Consider mining ICE instead of regular ore. ICE belts are usually highly populated. There is strength in numbers! Also ICE is the most AFK-ish type of mining there is!
- For the ultimate piece of mind set up a POS in a wormhole and you won't have to bother with haters ever again. Of course you will be visited by PVP pirates once in a while but that's what the "Wormhole Scanner" option is for!
- Alternate mining characters.
- Don't mine 24/7 every day!
Employ these tips and you'll have a long and profitable mining career!
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Keeping a low profile
I want to keep a low profile and not get flagged by CCP. ( go figure) Does anybody know, does CCP track time spent per account online, or character. Right now I am mining with one char for x amount of minutes, then I switch char's ( on the same account ) and mine for x amount of minutes. Is this a safe way of operating for now? Dual boxing with both char's right now isn't a option, but is my goal. BTW I do not mine 23/7. Thanks in advance for your input.
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Re: tips on how to keep a low profile?
Here is what I have been doing for the last two years...
I have 6 paid toons just for mining.
I have multiple paid VPN accounts all over the world.
When I use 4 or more toons, each of them are on different VPN's throughout the world so that it all looks like a fleet mining op.
I mix up which toons I use from day to day.
I never have any set hours I mine, rather I mix it up.
I never have any set days I mine, rather I mix it up.
I never mine when people usually sleep.
I mine more heavily on the weekends and holidays.
I change systems often. I have bunch of systems that I round robin.
I mine only very lightly during work days.
I never mine while I'm gone for more than two hours.
Never do I ever keep any kind of schedule.
On all my toons, I run missions about one a week or so.
Some days I mine for 2 hours and other 14 hours. Some times I log on and do nothing but sit in station for an entire day.
Most of all, I don't get greedy on any one toon. If I average 6 to 8 million an hour per toon, I'm good. Some people want to do more. However, I have been in EVE a very long time (10 years) and with TM slightly more than 2 and so far, I'm still flying. Many others are not. I have even seen people mine manually at very regular times and get banned/suspended/sanctioned/fined for bot mining in under two weeks.
If anyone has any suggestions, let me know.
Fly safe folks.
I have 6 paid toons just for mining.
I have multiple paid VPN accounts all over the world.
When I use 4 or more toons, each of them are on different VPN's throughout the world so that it all looks like a fleet mining op.
I mix up which toons I use from day to day.
I never have any set hours I mine, rather I mix it up.
I never have any set days I mine, rather I mix it up.
I never mine when people usually sleep.
I mine more heavily on the weekends and holidays.
I change systems often. I have bunch of systems that I round robin.
I mine only very lightly during work days.
I never mine while I'm gone for more than two hours.
Never do I ever keep any kind of schedule.
On all my toons, I run missions about one a week or so.
Some days I mine for 2 hours and other 14 hours. Some times I log on and do nothing but sit in station for an entire day.
Most of all, I don't get greedy on any one toon. If I average 6 to 8 million an hour per toon, I'm good. Some people want to do more. However, I have been in EVE a very long time (10 years) and with TM slightly more than 2 and so far, I'm still flying. Many others are not. I have even seen people mine manually at very regular times and get banned/suspended/sanctioned/fined for bot mining in under two weeks.
If anyone has any suggestions, let me know.
Fly safe folks.
Re: tips on how to keep a low profile?
Mixing it up is good, I don't think you need to alternate IPs with VPNs but if you hang out in a regular system make sure to use chat, talk about anything while you mine, I am in a system that no one talks, I'm sure most of the regulars there are botting at times and when they are not chatty you can be sure they are mining low end ores closest to their ships which is a dead give way, this leaves me all the good stuff even with 4-7 random bots in my system.
Also when you mine yourself mine away like crazy, be human, do things a bot cant, like jet canning and then renaming cans, use several coves/hulks (faster miners) your self and jet can away while you have a big transport pick it up the cans, this gets you a massive amount of top end ores fast.
Or you can run a mission on one client and a Retr/Mack on the other (slower mining but allows you to play other aspects of EVE).
Then later go watch TV or go to work and throw TM Single Client or TM Double Client for a few hours, mix that up allot, use a different system at that point perhaps a dead end system with less traffic a few jumps away, as stated use the different accounts at different times.
but at the same time a schedule shows you're human as well, you eat, sleep, work and have week ends.
I love the sitting in the station comment, that's as human as it gets lol
Lately I have been sick so I only use 2 accounts to mine (I have lots) while I watch TV on another monitor, it's a good break from Eve that way and still pays the EVE bills
Also when you mine yourself mine away like crazy, be human, do things a bot cant, like jet canning and then renaming cans, use several coves/hulks (faster miners) your self and jet can away while you have a big transport pick it up the cans, this gets you a massive amount of top end ores fast.
Or you can run a mission on one client and a Retr/Mack on the other (slower mining but allows you to play other aspects of EVE).
Then later go watch TV or go to work and throw TM Single Client or TM Double Client for a few hours, mix that up allot, use a different system at that point perhaps a dead end system with less traffic a few jumps away, as stated use the different accounts at different times.
but at the same time a schedule shows you're human as well, you eat, sleep, work and have week ends.
I love the sitting in the station comment, that's as human as it gets lol
Lately I have been sick so I only use 2 accounts to mine (I have lots) while I watch TV on another monitor, it's a good break from Eve that way and still pays the EVE bills