Why does TM randomly turns off? (SOLVED)

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Dareview
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Why does TM randomly turns off? (SOLVED)

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I have no idea why but i cant seem to leave my pc alone without coming back and finding TM had closed the game and itself down.

here is the message from now when it went off:
10/1/2010 7:59:28 PM - Commencing a new Run. Auto-Placing the EVE window in the top left corner of the screen.
10/1/2010 7:59:28 PM - Checking for the Undock button (to see if the ship is inside the station). Found it!
10/1/2010 7:59:28 PM - The ship is undocking now. Waiting...
10/1/2010 7:59:46 PM - Undock successful. The ship is in space.
10/1/2010 7:59:55 PM - Checking to see if an asteroid is already locked. Not found!
10/1/2010 7:59:55 PM - Warping to a random asteroid belt from your Mining Folder. Belt number 1 has been chosen this time!
10/1/2010 8:00:59 PM - Zooming out the camera to remove unnecessary objects from the clickable area.
10/1/2010 8:01:05 PM - The warp seems to have ended.
10/1/2010 8:01:08 PM - Clicking in the Overview to see if an asteroid appears in the Selected Item window. Found one!
10/1/2010 8:01:08 PM - Targeting the first asteroid from the Overview.
10/1/2010 8:01:13 PM - Checking to see if an asteroid is already locked. Found one!
10/1/2010 8:01:13 PM - Checking to see if an asteroid is already locked. Found one!
10/1/2010 8:01:13 PM - Starting the mining cycle number 1.
10/1/2010 8:01:14 PM - Checking to see if an asteroid is already locked. Found one!
10/1/2010 8:01:15 PM - Starting mining laser number 1.
10/1/2010 8:01:19 PM - Starting mining laser number 2.
10/1/2010 8:11:46 PM - Stopping mining laser number 1.
10/1/2010 8:11:52 PM - Clicking in the Overview to see if an asteroid appears in the Selected Item window. Found one!
10/1/2010 8:11:55 PM - Checking for the Undock button (to see if the ship is inside the station). Not found!
10/1/2010 8:11:57 PM - Docking to the station.
10/1/2010 8:13:32 PM - Checking for the Undock button (to see if the ship is inside the station). Not found!
10/1/2010 8:15:04 PM - Checking for the Undock button (to see if the ship is inside the station). Not found!
10/1/2010 8:15:06 PM - Clicking in the Overview to see if an asteroid appears in the Selected Item window. Found one!
10/1/2010 8:15:06 PM - The ship did not warp to station and it is still at the asteroid belt. Trying the workaround procedure.
10/1/2010 8:15:31 PM - Unlocking the currently targeted asteroids.
10/1/2010 8:15:32 PM - Checking to see if an asteroid is already locked. Found one!
10/1/2010 8:15:35 PM - Unlocked 1 asteroids.
10/1/2010 8:15:36 PM - Checking to see if an asteroid is already locked. Not found!
10/1/2010 8:15:36 PM - Targeting the first asteroid from the Overview.
10/1/2010 8:15:40 PM - Orbiting the currently targeted asteroid.
10/1/2010 8:16:42 PM - Checking for the Undock button (to see if the ship is inside the station). Not found!
10/1/2010 8:16:44 PM - Docking to the station.
10/1/2010 8:18:17 PM - Checking for the Undock button (to see if the ship is inside the station). Not found!
10/1/2010 8:19:47 PM - Checking for the Undock button (to see if the ship is inside the station). Not found!
10/1/2010 8:19:50 PM - Clicking in the Overview to see if an asteroid appears in the Selected Item window. Found one!
10/1/2010 8:19:50 PM - The ship did not warp to station and it is still at the asteroid belt. Trying the workaround procedure.
10/1/2010 8:20:14 PM - Unlocking the currently targeted asteroids.
10/1/2010 8:20:15 PM - Checking to see if an asteroid is already locked. Found one!
10/1/2010 8:20:19 PM - Unlocked 1 asteroids.
10/1/2010 8:20:20 PM - Checking to see if an asteroid is already locked. Not found!
10/1/2010 8:20:20 PM - Targeting the first asteroid from the Overview.
10/1/2010 8:20:24 PM - Orbiting the currently targeted asteroid.
10/1/2010 8:21:26 PM - Checking for the Undock button (to see if the ship is inside the station). Not found!
10/1/2010 8:21:28 PM - Docking to the station.
10/1/2010 8:23:04 PM - Checking for the Undock button (to see if the ship is inside the station). Not found!
10/1/2010 8:24:32 PM - Checking for the Undock button (to see if the ship is inside the station). Not found!
10/1/2010 8:24:34 PM - Clicking in the Overview to see if an asteroid appears in the Selected Item window. Found one!
10/1/2010 8:24:34 PM - The ship did not warp to station and it is still at the asteroid belt. Trying the workaround procedure.
10/1/2010 8:24:59 PM - Unlocking the currently targeted asteroids.
10/1/2010 8:25:00 PM - Checking to see if an asteroid is already locked. Found one!
10/1/2010 8:25:03 PM - Unlocked 1 asteroids.
10/1/2010 8:25:04 PM - Checking to see if an asteroid is already locked. Not found!
10/1/2010 8:25:04 PM - Targeting the first asteroid from the Overview.
10/1/2010 8:25:09 PM - Orbiting the currently targeted asteroid.
10/1/2010 8:26:11 PM - Checking for the Undock button (to see if the ship is inside the station). Not found!
10/1/2010 8:26:13 PM - Docking to the station.
10/1/2010 8:27:49 PM - Checking for the Undock button (to see if the ship is inside the station). Not found!
10/1/2010 8:29:17 PM - Checking for the Undock button (to see if the ship is inside the station). Not found!
10/1/2010 8:29:19 PM - Clicking in the Overview to see if an asteroid appears in the Selected Item window. Found one!
10/1/2010 8:29:19 PM - The ship did not seem to break free after 3 workaround attempts. Terminating this mining session.
10/1/2010 8:29:19 PM - Taking the closing screenshot and saving it in the Tiny Miner settings folder under "My Documents".
10/1/2010 8:29:20 PM - Pressing Ctrl-Q in order to quit the EVE client immediately!
10/1/2010 8:29:24 PM - Found a server information window. Pressing Enter to close it! If this was a false positive then try to rotate the camera a bit so that there isn't a bright white color in the middle of the screen where the information windows usually appear.
10/1/2010 8:29:25 PM - The EVE client appears to have crashed or disconnected. Exiting Tiny Miner.
10/1/2010 8:30:00 PM - Tiny Miner is closing.
when i come back online my ship this time is in space next to the ice roid it was mining off.
sometimes i find my ship in station.

is there something im doing wrong here?
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Re: Why does TM randomly turns off?

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Probably your ship got stuck in the ICE roid and the program couldn't break free from it after 3 unsuccessful attempts. I suggest you make the bookmarks farther away from the ICE rocks. Why have you posted the log without reading it?
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Re: Why does TM randomly turns off?

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I think that may be the reason, ill bookmark farther away and let you know if it happens again

I read the log but i didnt understand what went wrong at at 8:15. i thought it would help to include the log in my question
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Re: Why does TM randomly turns off?

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10/1/2010 8:15:06 PM - The ship did not warp to station and it is still at the asteroid belt. Trying the workaround procedure.

That's what happened at 8:15. I don't know how to make it more clear than that... The workaround procedure consists of locking the first asteroid from the Overview and trying to Orbit it in order to break free. It works fine most of the times but sometimes it doesn't so the program will not try that forever and will give up after 3 unsuccessful attempts. It even says that right there at 8:29:

10/1/2010 8:29:19 PM - The ship did not seem to break free after 3 workaround attempts. Terminating this mining session.

So my conclusion was that you haven't read the log... When you make a bookmark try to keep a clear path between the ship and the station so that it doesn't get stuck when trying to warp back.
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Re: Why does TM randomly turns off? (SOLVED)

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I got the same problems, but sometimes the reason for quiting the mining session arent why ship is getting stucked between rocks, other times it only say's I have to rotate camera cuz a bright light is there appearing the same than a server diag box or some other similar reasons.

What I dont like so pretty is on older versions I never got this problems. Yes its true that sometimes ship can get stucked on the rocks, but not every day, or I think its not possible to got every day some dialog boxes on screen. Since the 5.0 versions a got this couple of troubles and never hace ended a mining session just before de DT...and this will mean a lot of isk's losts.

Please, review this again and let us hear more opinions from other user's.
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Re: Why does TM randomly turns off? (SOLVED)

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The dialog boxes are caused by pressing Ctrl-Q in order to quit the game. A dialog box will appear asking if you really want to quit now and TinyMiner will press Enter to confirm. You can disable these dialog boxes by ticking the "Do not ask me again" check-box.

The reason for pressing Ctrl-Q however is usually found a bit earlier in the log, that's why nobody reads that far. Most of the times it is because all the belts from your mining folder have been marked as empty so it makes no sense in hanging around any longer.

It can also happen when your ship gets stuck in an asteroid and the program cannot get it unstuck after 3 unsuccessful workaround attempts. You should consider increasing the Orbit distance a bit and make sure all asteroids appear in the Overview (not only Veldspar) so that chances of getting stuck are smaller.

To eliminate this problem completely you may want to use the "Warp from 200km" option (with a default warp distance of 3500m) and disable orbiting to avoid getting stuck. For best results make sure the 200km bookmarks are made in alignment with the station.
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